The comparison then is how do they work vs the diamond rods and the medium ceramic rods, other interesting questions would be vs the moldmaster and other secondary systems which can be used with the Sharpmaker. CBN or Diamond aren't "accessories" and should be a part of everyone's sharpening stable. 24 posts Previous; 1; 2; TkoK83Spy Member Posts: 4846 Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:32 pm Location: Syracuse, NY. Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40. These CBN rods are especially helpful with harder "supersteels" like Maxamet, S110V, and ZDP-189, saving lots of sharpening time initially before moving onto the Spyderco medium rods.Pay heed to the cautions about not applying too much pressure on your sharpening passes. Google Ken Schwartz, dude makes tons of strop pastes and shit out of the stuff. It wasn't talking specifically about super steels as the OP is, but the question was how to incorp the diamond/cbn rods into your sharpening strategy. Apr 10, 2015 #1. Reply Quote. https://bladeforums.com/threads/can-you-use-ceramics-to-sharpen-s30-90-110v-or-not.1519674/, https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/can-you-use-ceramics-to-sharpen-s30-90-110v-or-not.1519674/, https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?t=66087, https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?t=63254, https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?t=68482, http://www.cliffstamp.com/knives/forum/read.php?10,26465, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. The CBN Rods for the Sharpmaker are more coarse than the diamond if I'm not mistaken. IIRC, Sal said the CBN rods should hold up better than the Diamonds due to an improved process that retains the CBN particles better. The slow speed of hand sharpening doesn’t create enough heat to be detrimental to diamond which is why they both work in sharpening rods. me2. Forum rules. 5 years ago CBN is just as hard as diamond and works approximately the same though in high speed cutting applications for some reason is harder than diamond. Two different abrasives. For Sharpmaker finishing stone options for super steels, will try 2 options. Get the mold masters like suggested here ^. The CBN Rods for the Sharpmaker are more coarse than the diamond if I'm not mistaken. Post by TkoK83Spy » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:28 pm . Google Ken Schwartz, dude makes tons of strop pastes and shit out of the stuff. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Apr 8, 2006 ... A German rep and seller of Spyderco equipment informed me that the CBN rods were developed to replace the diamond rods because these tended to loose particles / prone to fall off, if to much pressure was applied by the user. I assume you mean the diamond rods. Re: CBN vs Daimond SM rods? I'm guessing if they get too bad Spyderco will If you ever want to reprofile and thin out your blade, or repair a chip...you cut your time in half using those over the brown stones. 5 years ago I would definitely recommend the diamond/CBN rods over the … In theory diamond isn’t ideal for use on ferrous materials. Didn't read above. So, lacking a high-grit diamond/cbn stone to finish super steels in the SM, perhaps the UF stone is an ok fallback option. Simple question: CBN vs. Diamond rods Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by Valle, Apr 10, 2015. No point just referencing that thread. Postby TkoK83Spy » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:28 pm, Postby Dreaded » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:30 pm, Postby Wartstein » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:50 pm, Postby Bill1170 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:00 am, Users browsing this forum: Ankerson, Majestic-12 [Bot], p_atrick, prndltech and 42 guests. It would take A LONG TIME to do either of those things with a Sharpmaker brown stone. Based on that I got the CBN rods. If you ever want to reprofile … Re: CBN vs Daimond SM rods? As a toolmaker I use diamond grinding wheels on carbides, and ceramics, CBN I use for tool steels. That and curiosity to try CBN. edited 6 years ago. IMO go with CBN. They have diamond rods and cubic boron nitride rods. The Spyderco Ultrafine ceramics. level 2. See Diamond vs CBN rods grit - Spyderco Forums and CBN Rods - Spyderco Forums So the spyderco sharpmaker cbn SP204CBN rods/stones are about same grit as diamonds, 400 mesh , or 40 microns or P360 or J400 Apparently CBN rods aren't any harder to damage than diamonds , just use them dry with high force see CBN Rods - Page 7 - Spyderco Forums I tested this with my UF rods just last night. Definitely a big step up from the brown stones. Spyderco's CBN rods match up very well with their Diamond sharpening rods, which I have used for quite awhile. Again, not optimal, but these DO seem to work to refine an already sharp and apexed edge on super steels like S30v and S35vn. The CBN rods have settled into a slightly finer grit/finish than the diamond rods--barely noticeable, though. They work very well. Linked below Re: Sharpmaker : CBN rods : 400 grit.mesh March 15, 2014 09:09AM Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 2,619 To be fair, using the blocks horizontally is an idea I got … By varying the number of passes you can generate an edge which has the essential behavior of any grit between the two. Some threads at Spyderco forums are relevant to this discussion. Search Advanced search. Discuss Spyderco's products and history. The grit does wear off though which is pretty frustrating. Valle . Spyderco Counterfeits, Clones, Replicas, etc. In operation since 1998, BladeForums.com has led the industry since Day 1. Discussion in 'Maintenance, Tinkering & Embellishment' started by Razor, Oct 21, 2017. 130. CBN or Diamond aren't "accessories" and should be a part of everyone's sharpening stable. I have a pair and they are pretty good. CBN is just as hard as diamond and works approximately the same though in high speed cutting applications for some reason is harder than diamond. Apex on the diamond rods, do just a couple of passes on the medium rods - check the edge. About 5 super light strokes per side, after apexing on bench diamond stones, and it did get these blades noticeably sharper. They're really affordable, so easy to get a few and try them. Agree with the Congress Tools recommendation, if using Sharpmaker, I'd definitely be checking out their different stones including Ruby and MoldMaker. The more passes you do the closer it will come to the medium rod finish. Post by Dreaded » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:30 pm As a toolmaker I use diamond grinding wheels on carbides, and ceramics, CBN I use for tool steels. ), For Sharpmaker primary sharpening stone option for super steels: I order a few grits of the Congress Tools silicon carbide. My bad.